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Driving Cigars?
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Alex W.
2009-04-17 11:02:31 UTC
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To separate this out from another thread:
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?

For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to

- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.

Any names that spring to mind?
CigarBaron
2009-04-17 11:48:17 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to
- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.
Any names that spring to mind?
Usually shorter ones: I use in the car El Rico Havana Robusto, H.
Upmann Conn. #1, RASS.

CigarBaron
Young Martle
2009-04-17 12:55:04 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to
- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.
Any names that spring to mind?
The longest drive I take is to my parents house which is about
2 .5 hrs. away.

I have a few old bundles of El Credito Robustos that are as you
describe.

They are slooow burning and take about 1.5 hrs to smoke. That gives me
30 mins at the beginning to get out of town and 30 mins at the end to
"air out" before I hug Mom when I get home. :-)

No flaky ash, no touch ups. Just a nice relaxing cruise across the
island.


hmmm. time for a visit
Myron
Ken Dixon
2009-04-17 14:10:00 UTC
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The LGC Wavell (El Credito robusto to those of you outside the US)
consistently holds a long firm ash.
If I smoked cigars while driving that would be my choice. I prefer a
pipe behind the wheel.

Ken in Miami
Young Martle
2009-04-17 15:28:17 UTC
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Post by Ken Dixon
The LGC Wavell (El Credito robusto to those of you outside the US)
consistently holds a long firm ash.
If I smoked cigars while driving that would be my choice. I prefer a
pipe behind the wheel.
Ken in Miami
I bought the El Creditos thru an online US vendor,
I thought they were seconds of LGC.

I've never had a LGC to compare with. (online vendors that ship to
Canada never seem to have any)

I must add though, that what's left of those bundles are now about 6
years old and are very very tasty indeed.

Myron
Ken Dixon
2009-04-17 15:39:34 UTC
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Post by Young Martle
Post by Ken Dixon
The LGC Wavell (El Credito robusto to those of you outside the US)
consistently holds a long firm ash.
If I smoked cigars while driving that would be my choice. I prefer a
pipe behind the wheel.
Ken in Miami
I bought the El Creditos thru an online US vendor,
I thought they were seconds of LGC.
If you bought El Credito's from a US vendor they are the "seconds" line
though they are not the exact same blend as the US LGC. EC's are more a
budget line that Ernie rolled for the locals. Still a good low priced
stick.

Ken in Miami
MLF
2009-04-17 16:50:36 UTC
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Post by Ken Dixon
Post by Young Martle
I bought the El Creditos thru an online US vendor,
I thought they were seconds of LGC.
If you bought El Credito's from a US vendor they are the "seconds" line
though they are not the exact same blend as the US LGC. EC's are more a
budget line that Ernie rolled for the locals. Still a good low priced
stick.
Not true. LGCs were made by "El Credito Cigar de E.P.C." started by Ernesto
Perez-Carrillo Sr.. His son, Ernesto Perez-Carrillo Jr. eventually took over
the business and later sold out to Swedish Match, who was bought by General
Cigars, etc. etc.. They make La Gloria Cubana, El Rico Habano, El Credito
International, and Artesanos de Miami.

They have a retail/manufacturing location in Miami, but the main one is in
the Dominican Republic. Since Ernesto left the business to start another
earlier this year with his son and daughter, General Cigar is entirely in
charge. From the look of the web site (elcreditocigars.com) it appears that
the store is still going strong, operating under the name "El Credito
Cigars" but I wonder how many cigars are still made there.

The El Credito cigars sold in the US (the one you bought) are a similar
blend to the LGCs, but with a less expensive EMS wrapper (LGCs have a toothy
and more flavorful Equadorian one). They are not seconds of anything (if
they were they would be the same sizes and have the same components. They
don't.).

There is an El Credito sold in Europe with some (all?) Cuban tobacco in it
which used to be made in the Dominican factory, and I assume it still is.

I have smoked a truckload of El Creditos, sold by the bundle in a yellow or
white wrapper. I have smoked another truckload of LGCs. Take my word for it,
ECs are not seconds of LGCs. They are just made by the same company.

Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA ***@REMOVEsprynet.com
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MLF
2009-04-17 16:55:18 UTC
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Incidently, if you want to know what's happening with El Credito and Ernesto
Carrillo Jr., see the following:

http://www.puff.com/Content/Puff-Lifestyle/a-conversation-with-ernesto-perez-carrillo.html

http://cigars.about.com/b/2009/01/23/master-cigar-maker-to-start-new-company.htm

Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA ***@REMOVEsprynet.com
========================================================
..LGCs were made by "El Credito Cigar de E.P.C." started by Ernesto
Perez-Carrillo Sr.. His son, Ernesto Perez-Carrillo Jr. eventually took
over the business and later sold out to Swedish Match, who was bought by
General Cigars, etc. etc.. They make La Gloria Cubana, El Rico Habano, El
Credito International, and Artesanos de Miami.
http://www.puff.com/Content/Puff-Lifestyle/a-conversation-with-ernesto-perez-carrillo.html

http://cigars.about.com/b/2009/01/23/master-cigar-maker-to-start-new-company.htm
Ken Dixon
2009-04-17 17:06:28 UTC
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Post by MLF
Post by Ken Dixon
Post by Young Martle
I bought the El Creditos thru an online US vendor,
I thought they were seconds of LGC.
If you bought El Credito's from a US vendor they are the "seconds" line
though they are not the exact same blend as the US LGC. EC's are more a
budget line that Ernie rolled for the locals. Still a good low priced
stick.
The El Credito cigars sold in the US (the one you bought) are a similar
blend to the LGCs, but with a less expensive EMS wrapper (LGCs have a toothy
and more flavorful Equadorian one). They are not seconds of anything (if
they were they would be the same sizes and have the same components. They
don't.).
That's what I said. No they are not true seconds (hence the quote marks)
but a similar but cheaper blend originally rolled for the local market
and still available at most cafecitos in Miami.

Ken in Miami
went to high school with Ernie
MLF
2009-04-17 18:16:37 UTC
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Post by Ken Dixon
That's what I said. No they are not true seconds (hence the quote marks)
but a similar but cheaper blend originally rolled for the local market and
still available at most cafecitos in Miami.
True. And also available by mail order and online.

However, I suspect that many lower-priced cigars (like El Credito) will not
be sold for much longer. The reason is SCHIP. The markup, various taxes, and
the wholesale prices will push a $50 bundle of cigars to nearly twice the
price. At that point, they're into the premium cost level. We'll see....

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Ken Dixon
2009-04-17 18:34:54 UTC
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Post by MLF
Post by Ken Dixon
That's what I said. No they are not true seconds (hence the quote marks)
but a similar but cheaper blend originally rolled for the local market and
still available at most cafecitos in Miami.
True. And also available by mail order and online.
However, I suspect that many lower-priced cigars (like El Credito) will not
be sold for much longer. The reason is SCHIP. The markup, various taxes, and
the wholesale prices will push a $50 bundle of cigars to nearly twice the
price. At that point, they're into the premium cost level. We'll see....
Probably right.
Schip and the proposed new Florida tobacco tax may kill off a lot of
blue collar product.
S***@aol.com
2009-04-17 14:43:47 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to
- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.
Any names that spring to mind?
I keep at least a couple of tubos in the car and truck, so, by
default, those are what I end up smoking on the road more often than
not. Currently I'm into the RyJ tubos, and my choice whether to light
a #1, #2, or #3 usually depends on trip time. Prior to that my glove
boxes usually had a few 3x3's or 4x4's. None of the above are medium-
strong, have a dense ash, or burn especially slow :)

When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice. My favorites have been some custom rolls from
Mitchell...Taboadas...any Cuban Dbl Corona...'98 Fundadores.
I'd venture to say that 7 or 8 of my top 10 cigars in life have been
smoked while on a road trip.
Chuck
2009-04-17 14:48:17 UTC
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Sounds great except for 1 thing.

The local LEOs really frown on the vodka martini or open dark beer in the
truck :~)
Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to
- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.
Any names that spring to mind?
I keep at least a couple of tubos in the car and truck, so, by
default, those are what I end up smoking on the road more often than
not. Currently I'm into the RyJ tubos, and my choice whether to light
a #1, #2, or #3 usually depends on trip time. Prior to that my glove
boxes usually had a few 3x3's or 4x4's. None of the above are medium-
strong, have a dense ash, or burn especially slow :)

When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice. My favorites have been some custom rolls from
Mitchell...Taboadas...any Cuban Dbl Corona...'98 Fundadores.
I'd venture to say that 7 or 8 of my top 10 cigars in life have been
smoked while on a road trip.
--
Chuck

I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.
Tom S.
2009-04-17 22:17:35 UTC
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<***@aol.com> wrote in message news:58377a88-7222-47eb-825a-***@h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...

When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice.
----------------------

And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)

Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
S***@aol.com
2009-04-18 02:33:35 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice.
----------------------
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
That IS pretty low on the priority list ! How didja know ? :)
Bob Borgeson
2009-04-18 02:44:43 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
Post by S***@aol.com
When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice.
----------------------
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
That IS pretty low on the priority list ! How didja know ? :)
We checked out that sandbar...
Joe
2009-04-18 05:08:38 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on a beverage
of choice.
----------------------
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
I just bought a F-150 4x4 With an Extended Cab. When I leave the
house, it is either in that or my Honda Civic Si. There is a major
difference in driving attitude between the 2 cars. If I am driving
the Honda, I am very alert. It is a nice, sporty (fast) ride, but
small. If I am driving the Ford, I can do it with my eyes closed. No
need to pay attention to the road. You can just drive over most small
cars... ;-)
--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X
Alex W.
2009-04-19 13:31:41 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight
to a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end
sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the
perfect time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping
on a beverage
of choice.
----------------------
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
Hutch drives trucks the way he drives boats?
Miss Elaine Eos
2009-04-19 16:01:04 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Tom S.
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
Hutch drives trucks the way he drives boats?
I've never heard tale of Hutch swamping a truck...

<G>

Misc "does airborne count as 'terrain inappropriate to the vehicle's
intended use'...?"
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S***@aol.com
2009-04-20 03:40:43 UTC
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Post by Miss Elaine Eos
Post by Alex W.
Post by Tom S.
And if time allows, paying attention to the road! :~)
Hmmmmmm...BUMP..BUMP...hmmmmmmmmm
Hutch drives trucks the way he drives boats?
I've never heard tale of Hutch swamping a truck...
Shit happens.
Post by Miss Elaine Eos
Misc "does airborne count as 'terrain inappropriate to the vehicle's
intended use'...?"
Well, that depends on who's doing the "intending" :)
MLF
2009-04-20 15:39:06 UTC
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Post by Miss Elaine Eos
Misc "does airborne count as 'terrain inappropriate to the vehicle's
intended use'...?"
Uh, not always...

http://museum.eaa.org/collection/aircraft/Taylor%20Aerocar.asp


Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA ***@REMOVEsprynet.com
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Alex W.
2009-04-19 13:38:57 UTC
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<***@aol.com> wrote in message news:58377a88-7222-47eb-825a-***@h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...


I keep at least a couple of tubos in the car and truck, so,
by
default, those are what I end up smoking on the road more
often than
not. Currently I'm into the RyJ tubos, and my choice whether
to light
a #1, #2, or #3 usually depends on trip time. Prior to that
my glove
boxes usually had a few 3x3's or 4x4's. None of the above
are medium-
strong, have a dense ash, or burn especially slow :)

============

You really like the RyJ tubos? What is it about them that
rings your bell?
I tried them some time ago and was none too impressed.
Give me a Cedros any day ....


When going on a longer than usual road trip (ie overnight to
a
tournament) I'll stock a traveldor with some higher end
sticks, as
I've found that a long drive in the car/truck is the perfect
time to
enjoy a cigar undistracted, enjoying some tunes, sipping on
a beverage
of choice. My favorites have been some custom rolls from
Mitchell...Taboadas...any Cuban Dbl Corona...'98 Fundadores.
I'd venture to say that 7 or 8 of my top 10 cigars in life
have been
smoked while on a road trip.
S***@aol.com
2009-04-20 03:38:31 UTC
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You really like the RyJ tubos? �What is it about them that
rings your bell?
I tried them some time ago and was none too impressed.
Give me a Cedros any day ....
I enjoy, ummmmmmmm, the flavor ? :) I also enjoy oaying appx $3/
stick.
Alex W.
2009-04-20 10:34:52 UTC
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You really like the RyJ tubos? ?What is it about them that
rings your bell?
I tried them some time ago and was none too impressed.
Give me a Cedros any day ....
I enjoy, ummmmmmmm, the flavor ? :) I also enjoy oaying
appx $3/
stick.

===============

Wasn't meant to criticise -- it's simply a stick I never
quite got to like.
It may have something to do with expectations: having known
the Cedros #1 first, it seemed quite reasonable to me that a
format with the same name (#1) but different packaging
should taste more or less the same -- which, when I tried
it, was not what I got.
BigMoods
2009-04-17 15:30:55 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
Well, since I haven't really 'owned' a car in several years, I haven't done
much smoking and driving lately. As I recall though, some of my favorite car
smokes included Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Toros and Sosa Governors.

When I was driving a truck in my youth, I generally found a pipe useful
company around 3AM when I was drifting off to sleep.

If I'm on a motorcyle, I invariably dig out some well aged connies.

BigMoods
Joe
2009-04-18 05:10:03 UTC
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Post by BigMoods
When I was driving a truck in my youth, I generally found a pipe useful
company around 3AM when I was drifting off to sleep.
This is a phenomena that I have experienced as well. A pipe really
seems to keep me awake and alert while driving. I don't get the same
reactions from smoking a cigar.
--
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joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X
Joe
2009-04-18 05:02:38 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
what are your favourite driving cigars?
What would you recommend?
For me, a good cigar to smoke in the car has to
- be medium to strong,
- have dense ash with as little flaking as possible,
- be slow-burning to resist the draft,
- be normally straight-burning.
Any names that spring to mind?
Party Shorts or Monte #4's, depending on my mood.

They are densely packed, the ash is solid as a rock, they burn slow,
and they last just about the right amount of time for a 45 minute to 1
hour drive.
--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X
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